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I went to my local Yammy dealer the other day, because I keep meaning to.

I have the K&N airfilter, and an aftermarket exhaust...
So I figured I could probably do with having my fueling adjusted.

They proceeded to tell me that they can't do anything.
So I asked, can you please plug it in to the (fi?) whatever it is...
They said the bike does it automatically...
So I proceeded to tell them that this bike doesn't have a lambda sensor.

They were adaminte it does.

Stupid Yammy dealer. I will NOT be going there for any work any time soon.
They know nothing about the bikes they sell obviously.

ON the bright side, their mechanic is actually a rather decent looking bird!
 

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eek.. so if i get a KnN air filter i got scorpion exhaust i need to adjust fueling? what would i need doing is it done on computer or manually?
 

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eek.. so if i get a KnN air filter i got scorpion exhaust i need to adjust fueling? what would i need doing is it done on computer or manually?
take it in to a dealer t adjust fueling with with a Fi tool something like that
i didnt bother any of that
 

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You don't HAVE to.
It wouldn't make a huge difference...

But it only takes them 5 minutes to plug it in and adjust soo...
I figured why not.
 

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You don't HAVE to.
It wouldn't make a huge difference...

But it only takes them 5 minutes to plug it in and adjust soo...
I figured why not.
You don't HAVE to.
It wouldn't make a huge difference...

But it only takes them 5 minutes to plug it in and adjust soo...
I figured why not.
what does it change?

I think I would like to do it does it cost much?
 

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It just changes the fuel to air mixture.
Making the bike run more lean, or more rich.

So if you have increased airflow, they would increase the ammount of fuel, to compensate.

More air = More fuel = More bang.
But like I said, it may not even be noticeable.
Modern bikes, with modern ECUs have a lambda sensor in the exhaust, which automatically does all this on the fly.

We have a stone age ECU though ¬¬
A power commander also does the same thing, allowing you to adjust the fuel mixture yourself via USB I believe.
The difference with a power commander, is that it allows you to have different fuel air mixtures which vary depending on your current RPM which is what allows you to tune the bike making it more aggressive / responsive.
 

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It just changes the fuel to air mixture.
Making the bike run more lean, or more rich.

So if you have increased airflow, they would increase the ammount of fuel, to compensate.

More air = More fuel = More bang.
But like I said, it may not even be noticeable.
Modern bikes, with modern ECUs have a lambda sensor in the exhaust, which automatically does all this on the fly.

We have a stone age ECU though ¬¬
A power commander also does the same thing, allowing you to adjust the fuel mixture yourself via USB I believe.
The difference with a power commander, is that it allows you to have different fuel air mixtures which vary depending on your current RPM which is what allows you to tune the bike making it more aggressive / responsive.
Is there or could we fit a better more advanced ECU? Or is that why people buy the power commander?
 

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Is there or could we fit a better more advanced ECU? Or is that why people buy the power commander?
Well someone on here was attempting to MAKE their own ECU.
Otherwise, no. You can't... Not easily at least...
The ECU is pretty much tailor made to specific engines.

The Power Commander is the best option, as that more or less does what you want.

I believe, some of the cheaper 180 conversion kits come with an entirely new ECU, however I may be mistaken.
 

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Well someone on here was attempting to MAKE their own ECU.
Otherwise, no. You can't... Not easily at least...
The ECU is pretty much tailor made to specific engines.

The Power Commander is the best option, as that more or less does what you want.

I believe, some of the cheaper 180 conversion kits come with an entirely new ECU, however I may be mistaken.
So when i eventually buy the Malossi kit i will not have to worry as it will come with the force master that does this too?
 

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Scott Murphy said:
So when i eventually buy the Malossi kit i will not have to worry as it will come with the force master that does this too?
Yea with the maps and adjustment settings

Low mid high and 3maps to choose from
 

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Scott Murphy said:
To many things to consider i think i will just see what happens when i have the money to do all of this as new things may be around by then.
Give me the cash and your bike
 

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Scott Murphy said:
Don't tempt me... lol. Once i have the money and passed my test i will sort everything out, probably with your assistance ;)
It's all good im here when you ready
 

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wicked ;) will get back to you soon bro just booked bike in for service and what not next week wed for 100quid including K&N my local is the nuts, from now on for me there isn't a point in asking others they do me best deal and do everything proper
 
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