Abs Cement?!

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thesilencer1987

Discussion Starter · Feb 7, 2012

Not sure if i'm putting this in the right section but here goes....

I'm looking for some ABS Cement to finish off repairing the nose cone on my bike. Bikerboy told me about it a while back but was wondering if anyone knew what the right stuff to get was? Just not too sure and would like some opinions before i buy.

Cheers lads

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Fisher

· #2 · Feb 7, 2012

yeah, I made a post regarding this a while back.

You want something along the lines of:
As far as I am aware, it's pretty much all the same.
Abs Cement, Low Voc (low volatile organic compound something something something)....

You may find yourself having hard time finding some in this country though...
Might be worth buying quite a bit, and selling the excess on eBay in order to save money on postage from the states.
That is what Henal did.

ONLY thing I would suggest, is try and look for one that comes with a brush, as spreading this stuff can be a nightmare ifyou don't have a suitable brush.

http://www.easupplies.com/EZ-WELD-91004-ABS-Cement-p/pl42c9.htm

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Fisher

· #3 · Feb 7, 2012

Doesn't look like I have ACTUALLY posted a guide yet, but I blogged about it briefly:

http://r125forum.com/entries/reparing-the-bike-after-the-crash.10/

thesilencer1987

Discussion Starter · #4 · Feb 7, 2012

They are only allowing a minimum of 40 per order so i don't think that's going to be an option!! :aghast:

Is it easy enough to apply with the brush? Easy to sand down etc?

Fisher

· #5 · Feb 7, 2012

thesilencer1987 said:
They are only allowing a minimum of 40 per order so i don't think that's going to be an option!! :aghast:

Is it easy enough to apply with the brush? Easy to sand down etc?

Well, that may not be the best supplier

Sure if you look around you can find something... Try google shopping.

Well, if you get the correct kind of brush it's fine.
The one that I used, looked kind of like a little foam microphone...
As you can see here:

It is easy enough to apply yeah!
Takes a long time to dry though...

So you will want to plastic weld the pieces together first. Basically just melt them together using a soldering iron.

Then you can apply this stuff, it is really gloopy when you apply it, but once it finally dries it is JUST like the original plastic, and sands down in the same way.
All it is, is bits of plastic crushed in to a powder, and mixed with acetone. You can quite easily make it yourself to be fair...

But it does take a LONG time to dry. I would suggest at least 24 hours in a warm dry place before attempting to sand. Preferably you may want longer, as the centre takes a while to dry if it is on quite thick. It should 'feel' dry within a few hours, and it is fine to ride with after a couple hours, so long as you are not touching it excessively.

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Fisher

· #6 · Feb 7, 2012

If you have any bits of ABS plastic lying around, you can make it yourself.
I have a boomerang panel I don't plan on using, but I figure it probably has more value in it's current form, unless a LOT of people want ABS cement

Take plastic -> sand all paint off -> cut in to smallest possible pieces. Shavings are ideal, but it doesn't matter too much. -> submerge in acetone -> leave for a while (a day or so depending on the size of the pieces) -> stir -> allow some of the acetone to evaporate out. --------Done.

thesilencer1987

Discussion Starter · #7 · Feb 7, 2012

I've plastic welded the bits that need doing, i was really looking for something like ABS cement to use as a 'filler' as the soldering iron i have isn't the greatest to weld with and there is a few low spots that will need building up and sanded again to get it right.

This is where i'm at so far.

Hood Blue Purple Automotive design Automotive exterior

Theres a few miniscule pinhole low spots that you can't really see there, but if i just plastic weld a little bit in i'm having to sand more and creating more low spots so i need to get enough filler material on there so that when i sand it down, im not getting any more low spots (hope that made sense).

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Fisher

· #8 · Feb 7, 2012

Once you have it joined nicely, you would use just regular body filler which is applied as a paste...

If you have welded it nicely, you may not even need the ABS cement, depends... I can't actually see very clearly from that photo.

thesilencer1987

Discussion Starter · #9 · Feb 7, 2012

Yeah the batteries in my digital camera have gone so had to use my phone with not alot of light in the room.

I think i maybe be able to plastic weld it enough to get to the stage of adding regular body filler then. I wasn't quite sure if that was the process or whether you actually needed ABS Cement to act as the filler.

Fisher

· #10 · Feb 8, 2012

thesilencer1987 said:
Yeah the batteries in my digital camera have gone so had to use my phone with not alot of light in the room.

I think i maybe be able to plastic weld it enough to get to the stage of adding regular body filler then. I wasn't quite sure if that was the process or whether you actually needed ABS Cement to act as the filler.

No, when I did mine, I actually didn't weld at all, I used the cement as... well, cement.
It isn't nesercary for filling... You can if you have rather large areas that need filling, as it gives extra strength as well.
But for the most part, regular filler will suffice.

Omar

· #11 · Feb 8, 2012

fiberglass would be good for that

thesilencer1987

Discussion Starter · #12 · Feb 8, 2012

Fisher said:
No, when I did mine, I actually didn't weld at all, I used the cement as... well, cement.
It isn't nesercary for filling... You can if you have rather large areas that need filling, as it gives extra strength as well.
But for the most part, regular filler will suffice.

Cheers for that. I did a fair bit of practicing of the welding so i managed to do it fine and all seems in good order so i think i'll just go onto regular filler now.

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Fisher

· #13 · Feb 8, 2012

Did the welding mess up your soldering iron at all?
Or was it relatively easy to clean?

thesilencer1987

Discussion Starter · #14 · Feb 8, 2012

I just got a dish towel, ran it under the sink and as soon as i finished welding gave it a good clean, seemed to do the job for me.

Benji

· #15 · Feb 8, 2012

For filler on that, i have succesfully used zip ties, ideal thickness to use. Then sand it down, with a little bit of filler/stopper to get it spot on.

Fisher

· #16 · Feb 8, 2012

Benji said:
For filler on that, i have succesfully used zip ties, ideal thickness to use. Then sand it down, with a little bit of filler/stopper to get it spot on.

You have done what?

Benji

· #17 · Feb 9, 2012

Fisher said:
You have done what?

Plastic welding, using a zip tie for filler. Ideal for cracked bumpers and fairings.

Fisher

· #18 · Feb 9, 2012

Benji said:
Plastic welding, using a zip tie for filler. Ideal for cracked bumpers and fairings.

Oh I see... interesting!

Is it the right kind of plastic? It works nicely?
And you can sand / paint it nicely?

So you basically use it like solder?

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Ben

· #19 · Feb 9, 2012

Looks like I'll be using a bit of this ABS cement too, cheers for the mini-guide

Fisher

· #20 · Feb 9, 2012

I'll do a proper guide soon

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